Collab 2020: Modeling Heavy Equipment (Backhoe)

Collaborations
Kent Trammell

Accomplishing a BIG project TOGETHER

Starting in March 2020, I began a large stream project to model a comprehensive, highly-detailed Caterpillar 434E backhoe. Please watch the first stream (first 3 minutes of abridged version at least) for an overview.

It's a straight-forward project of building a complex model over an extended period of time. The spin on the project is that I want your help to accomplish it! If I build some parts and you build some parts, we will finish this thing much quicker. Plus the contribution format will include reviews, the potential of having your piece(s) assimilated into the final model. Not to mention large quantities of XP are at stake 🤑

NOTE: This is an involved project reserved for Citizen members.

Collaboration Details

The general idea is that I kickoff stages of the project via live stream, which is typically once per month. For the time in between streams, you choose a piece of the backhoe and apply what you learned from the stream to that piece. For example, the first stream covered initial block out. So between stream 1 and stream 2, your job is to pick a piece and block it out.

This is the repeating protocol for each Assignment Period (between-streams):

  1. Signing up for pieces of the model. I will be maintaining a Google Sheet to organize piece selection and grading. Following this URL will give you the ability to comment. The sheet is sectioned vertically and color-coordinated with a backhoe image. To sign up for a piece, right click on an empty cell below your desired piece section and click "Comment" (CTRL + ALT + M). Comment your name or username and I will fill it in officially as confirmation.

    Remember that it is OK for multiple people to model the same piece. But lets try to have at least one person assigned to each piece before doubling up.

    2. Project file structure. We're going to use Google Drive as a means to sync a single working directory among all contributors. See this thread about details and how to get set up.

    3. Submitting your piece for review. Exactly one week before the next stream is scheduled to be broadcast, your piece is due. In the "Attempt" cell of the spreadsheet, paste a download link to your .blend file via Dropbox, Google Drive, or equivalent hosting service. This will earn you at least 10 XP each week.

    4. Review. On stream I will review each submitted piece and decide which will be assimilated into the master model (in the case of multiple submissions of the same piece). The purpose of the review is to generate feedback for you work and advice for improvement.

    5. Assimilation. If your piece makes the cut and is assimilated into the master model, your name / username will be added to the object in Blender. You will go down in history as a definitive contributor to this epic backhoe model!

    Once the model is completely done, I plan to render a short demo reel showing off the model and crediting all contributors. It should be a rewarding conclusion to all the work we will do!

Assignment Prompts

I will reply to this thread after each stream with a [big] assignment post denoted by a  📣 emoji in the title. There I will clarify instructions about each Assignment Period.

Online Resources

Reference Images

Livestreams


This is THE thread

We will centralize our collaborative communication between the streams and this thread. Ask any and all questions pertaining to the Backhoe project here.

  • Shawn Blanch(blanchsb) replied

    ketre it told me that the discord link is no longer active.

    @theluthier Blender Support is here! Okay I got bligify working properly. I had the wrong zip file installed. The install and readme is on GitHub: https://github.com/doakey3/Bligify/releases 


     It did everything for me: render a blender animation sequence and then converted the images to a gif. I just had to wait an extra minute while it plugged and chugged away after the render was completed!!!! so cool.......just make sure to Read the Freaking Manual before starting, unlike me.

    Here's my Sand Dune tire gif from his tutorial:
    Made with the help of Spikeyxxx and the Blender Add-on: Bligify


    Ok now back to "brass tacks". I'll go get some relevant gifs to show off regarding the problem areas.

  • Shawn Blanch(blanchsb) replied

    Alright, here's the skinny: I uploaded my Angle Bracket Clash on my own Forum posting here https://cgcookie.com/questions/12127-backhoe-contribution-blanchsb-loader-arms

    dostovel, GREG-MCKIM (sorry I don't know your at mention name) aartifact: see these two reference images:

    GREG-MCKIM and ARTIFACT your comments are in Purple. The loader arms and engine enclosure are intersecting: Clash of the Blendz


    Omar your comments are in red and light blue. Lower hydraulic is intersecting with fuel fill: Clash of the Blendz Vol. 2.
    And Battery Box heights appear inconsistent (notice the snipped battery wires are lower on the X-ray image).


    Omar: Air Gap and Clash of Blendz Vol. 2 (red AND light blue)

    Omar: No Air Gap

    Couple of intersecting points

    Does anybody else see the Cookie shadow, or is it just me???

  • Karen Trevino(ketre) replied

    Weird I set it to never expire.  ok trying again https://discord.gg/M8CeM9B  I sent you an invite personally

  • adrian replied

    I see it, the funky shadows. 

    ddoulos4iesou  (Greg McKim) , aartifact ,  with reference to blanchsb problem with the clash of the engine enclosure, I think the engine enclosure is actually slightly narrow at the cab end or at least the same, doesn't get wider, I think I remember @theluthier mention it in one of the live streams. 

    This image shows a good view, lens distortion probably not helping but the pistons and the loading arm will be as straight as a die, with that as reference it looks fairly straight, maybe narrower as it rounds over the top.

    dostovel with reference to the battery box the scale may need to be checked, remember the reference image has been scaled according to other sources. Also I think they need to be moved back an inch or two in the Y axis.

    And I noticed an angle to one side of your boxes, I cant seem to line up the rear fenders with it. Looking at the image below the angle maybe the other side (1), also they need to move forward in the X axis for the step to line up better with the cab (2) and the rear (right in this image) side needs more of a curve (3). This would help me with the fenders as well as blanchsb with the loader arm.


  • adrian replied

    Found an Image for the pound.

    Top view, shows the shape of cab or at least the roof. ketre hellosudeepsingh rryzen7 @theluthier

    Also the shape of the engine towards the cab does indeed narrow. ddoulos4iesou aartifact 

    The battery box also slightly back and forward dostovel 

    Maybe of use for the bucket as in width in comparison to the rest. Probably about the same width as the stabilizers ppfbourassa 

    No use for the wheels though, the front looks like a gokart wheel. Sorry spikeyxxx duerer sshanr rryzen7 

    Definitely 434E in the top right corner 


  • adrian replied

    Next Project:

    I don't mind doing the fenders again.

  • Shawn Blanch(blanchsb) replied

    🤣 i don’t mind doing the loader arms again on this one either

  • Shawn Blanch(blanchsb) replied

    Yeah I don’t believe that is our DOG. If it is it must be the older 434E.


    i believe our design is the newer pilot model, correct me if I am wrong. Most things looks semi-similar though, but I know there are definitely loader arm differences.

  • Shawn Blanch(blanchsb) replied

    Does the Pound think that I should spread the loader arms out a little as they go from the engine to the bucket? Reference top-down view of the image.

  • adrian replied

    No you got a tough job as it is. blanchsb 

  • Omar Domenech(dostovel) replied

    Ok I will do my part. The angle they have I took it from this images, after you stare at them for long enough you start noticing those kind of things.


  • Bhavesh Patel(ryzen7) replied

    But I mind doing cabin again!

  • Karen Trevino(ketre) replied

    Some of us have already joined a server on Discord that was created for the Backhoe Collaboration

    come and join us, mute it if you don't wanna be disturbed and look in when you want. This is a great way to trade pictures even share screen or talk about what's going on with your part of the project.

    https://discord.gg/tFkvCZ

    @theluthier 

    spikeyxxx 

    @adrian2301

    hellosudeepsingh 

    ullreym 

    jakeblended 

    sshanr 

    duerer

    az93 

    ddoulos4iesou 

    aartifact


    If I missed anyone just come on in and let us know who you are.

  • Omar Domenech(dostovel) replied

    OK here's the thing, one of them thingies is curved while the other is stepped. 

  • Ingmar Franz(duerer) replied

    Oh no, it has two wheels and one axle more🤪.

  • Ingmar Franz(duerer) replied

    Maybe this helps further:


  • Ingmar Franz(duerer) replied

    spikeyxxx Do you already know these Cat 434E front axle images?


    And the front differential:

  • spikeyxxx replied

    Oh that's great! Just when I was about to loose hope;) Thanks a lot duerer !

    My biggest problem is not enough pictures.

    Although this one is a little different from the other picture, it still very helpful, because this show it from the other side and the close-up of the differential is also fantastic!

    Again, thank you!

  • Omar Domenech(dostovel) replied

    Dude this helps a lot, thanks, I can see further details that before I could only guess.... aaaand that thing on the side is welded, that's going to be a nightmare.

  • artifact replied

    blanchsb   

    I don't think you'll have to spread the loader arms out much further. I believe the problem lies with my initial extrusion to a detail I should have inset instead. I've highlighted the offending extrusion in red below at the 1st clash of the blends point.

    Insetting that detail plus narrowing the engine enclosure by a hair towards the back should sort that problem right out. Unfortunately I'm unable to work on the model until this weekend.

    @adrian2301  Thanks for the top view find. The taper lluthier had talked on the stream about was towards the front of the enclosure instead of towards the cab. Still, from the top view reference you found, it does seem that the part of the enclosure with that inset seems a bit narrower than the rest of the enclosure towards the back.