Collab2021 - WIP - elubie

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This is my WIP submission thread for the collab.

  • Andrea Weikert(elubie) replied

    Finally had time to work on the sculpting. I did remodel the cart a bit mainly went back to the low-poly for sculpting and did necessary size adjustment and some tweaks (back of the cart was reported to be indeed rounded and made nicer handles and connection to the wheel axis)

    Sculpting was fun, but I'm still struggling a bit with it. Got about half the pieces done I think, but I might have to maybe make one or two variants for the duplicated boards, depending on how noticeable this will be.ย 

    With MatCap the dents and strokes look too strong, but the actual render is not so strong and with the baked normal map, I *think* it should be ok as it can be tuned down a bit.


    duerer If you have any feedback before I jump into sculpting the rest of the pieces, let me know so I can try to incorporate it.


  • Ingmar Franz(duerer) replied

    elubie I you hadn't written that sculpting isn't your strength, I wouldn't have noticed it ๐Ÿ˜‰! But seriously, the is an excellent work๐Ÿ‘!

  • Ingmar Franz(duerer) replied

    elubie With the sculpted boards being incorporated into your cart model, this is looking awesome ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘! I think, it was Kent @theluthier in his "Modeling Realistic Characters with Blender" ย course hereย who mentioned ย - when sculpting skin details - that this has to be exaggerated since the final shading will blurr those details. Skin is certainly a special case with its "Subsurface Scattering" but your example shows that this "sculpted details blurring" also applies to a certain degree to other shaders.

  • Andrea Weikert(elubie) replied

    duerer @theluthierย  Submission question: Unfortunately I made a probably noob mistake of going too high-poly in my sculpting.

    This means for the submission, the whole assembly of the cart is much too big (more than 1 GB) - even with the same plank meshes sharing data. I have each plank sculpt in a separate .blend file, so baking the textures should not be an issue and I expect to be able to submit everything fine next week, once the baking and texturing is done, the base model is quite low poly still.

    Would a picture of my sculpted cart be enough, or should I spend time reducing the high-poly sculpt until it is possible to submit?

  • yukino hatake(yukinoh1989) replied

    Trully nice piece of wood, lovr ot. You did great with the sculpting ๐Ÿ˜

  • sheila5 replied

    I wish I could sculpt that well, really impressive

  • Andrea Weikert(elubie) replied

    Homework Submission - Week 2 - ACCESSORIES STANDALONE - cart

    @theluthierย  duererย 

    And now I probably officially failed ;) Due to my stupidness, I spent far too much time getting the high-poly cart assembled in a single file, which resulted in huge issues with Blender responsiveness and tested my patience to no end.

    However, this makes me officially a bit over an hour late and I also did not manage to sculpt all the parts (one visible plank still missing as well as the axis and ย one part hidden under the cart.), but I finally managed to hold everything together, so here are the pictures: (I will not submit my huuuuge file to the Google Drive for now, next week after baking I should be back in low-poly land)

    I plan to finish sculpting before the stream on Tuesday, but for now this is what I managed.

    UPDATE [2021-04-19]:ย  I managed to reduce the polycount sufficiently to be able to sync to Google Drive now too, at the loss of some of the sculpting detail (still saved locally here to be used for baking), but overall should at least give good enough impression of my sculptted model.


  • Andrea Weikert(elubie) replied

    Small update: Got everything sculpted:

  • Andrea Weikert(elubie) replied

    First bake test, just baked normal map on low-poly mesh (cube with one level of bevel modifier applied).


  • Ingmar Franz(duerer) replied

    elubie I'm facing the same problem and also thought at just submitting an image. We should ask @theluthier.

  • Ingmar Franz(duerer) replied

    Fantastic ๐Ÿ‘!

  • Ingmar Franz(duerer) replied

    ssheila You're already sculpting well and you'll even do it better in the future ๐Ÿ˜€! Keep at it ๐Ÿ‘!

  • Andrea Weikert(elubie) replied

    I think I've now most of the hard work done: UV-layout and baking out the NORMAL and CAVITY maps. I baked out both versions 2048x2048 and 1024x1024 and it does indeed make a difference, especially with the cavity map.ย 



    This is the version with the 2048x2048 texture:



    And here with the smaller 1024x1024 sized textures, I am definitely glad about the larger size, otherwise probably would have to really start optimizing for texture space.


    Now I'm definitely looking forward to start painting in the next days.

  • Ingmar Franz(duerer) replied

    This is fantastic, Andrea elubie ๐Ÿ‘! I can barely wait to see your cart fully painted ๐Ÿ˜€!

  • Kent Trammell replied

    elubie You're doing amazing work! The sculpted details are beautiful ๐Ÿ‘ย 

    Also there's no failing for not finishing completely each week. Mostly I want to seeย something. Several people need more time sculpting (or whatever) and this is why week 4 is intentionally a buffer week to allow for this. The deadline is mostly there to require everyone show me progress by a certain time :)

    I have no constructive feedback to give. You're progressing very well. Keep up the good work!

    PS: I like how you signed the axle ๐Ÿ‘Œ

  • ladymito replied

    I love this cart! ๐Ÿ˜

  • Andrea Weikert(elubie) replied

    duerer @theluthierย  If you have some time, I'd like some feedback on what to improve with my texture painting before I dive into painting the rest of the cart. I feel like I'm not quite there yet and having a hard time figuring out the style. (everything 2k texture btw. 2048x2048).ย 

  • Ingmar Franz(duerer) replied

    elubie I would tend to style 2 due to its weathered look. The cart seems to have a significant damage on one front board (red circle):

    The spice vendor's business doesn't seem to run very well: a patch on the textile canopy and cracks in many roof tiles as well as broken out chunks in the silhouette of the left chimney are evoking this impression.ย 

    elubie You're really working on a very high level ๐Ÿ˜€! I'm deeply impressed ๐Ÿ‘!

  • Andrea Weikert(elubie) replied

    Homework Submission - Week 3 - ACCESSORIES STANDALONE - cart

    @theluthier duerer This week definitely was a bit easier for me. I plan to go over the texture painting again in the next days also to incorporate feedback and also because there are a few rough spots that I want to tackle with a fresh eye.ย 

    Textures and full model has been copied to the Google Drive for inspection in the WIP folder.

    EDIT: Added screenshot for statistics and baking results. Let me know if poly-count is too high and I will attempt to reduce by removing the bevel on the low-poly model and maybe joining back parts and and the floor. Didn't know how high I could go with the 'hero' model, so I went a bit for quality, making sure the wheels really look rounded and to add a bevel to avoid really sharp corners. Reducing the polycount probably would mean re-baking and repainting, since the uv's contain the applied bevel, but if necessary I'll do that.

  • Andrea Weikert(elubie) replied

    Mid-week update, some material fine-tuning and file cleanup.